RFC 3005 BEST CURRENT PRACTICE IETF · PROCESS

IETF Discussion List Charter

The rules for what belongs on the general IETF discussion mailing list.

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PUBLISHED
November 2000
AUTHORS
S. Harris
STREAM
IETF
OBSOLETED BY
RFC 9245 — IETF Discussion List
UPDATED BY
RFC 8717 — IASA 2.0 terminology
LIST ADDRESS
ietf@ietf.org
BCP NUMBER
45
DOI
10.17487/RFC3005

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Network Working Group                                          S. Harris
Request for Comments: 3005                                 Merit Network
BCP: 45                                                    November 2000
Category: Best Current Practice


                      IETF Discussion List Charter

Status of this Memo

   This document specifies an Internet Best Current Practices for the
   Internet Community, and requests discussion and suggestions for
   improvements.  Distribution of this memo is unlimited.

Copyright Notice

   Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2000).  All Rights Reserved.

Abstract

   The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) discussion mailing list
   furthers the development and specification of Internet technology
   through discussion of technical issues, and hosts discussions of IETF
   direction, policy, meetings, and procedures.  As this is the most
   general IETF mailing list, considerable latitude is allowed.
   Advertising, whether to solicit business or promote employment
   opportunities, falls well outside the range of acceptable topics, as
   do discussions of a personal nature.

Charter for the IETF Discussion List

   The IETF discussion list, ietf@ietf.org, serves two purposes.  It
   furthers the development and specification of Internet technology
   through discussion of technical issues.  It also hosts discussions of
   IETF direction, policy, meetings, and procedures.  As this is the
   most general IETF mailing list, considerable latitude is allowed.
   Advertising, whether to solicit business or promote employment
   opportunities, falls well outside the range of acceptable topics, as
   do discussions of a personal nature.

   This list is meant for initial discussion only.  Discussions that
   fall within the area of any working group or well established list
   should be moved to such more specific forum as soon as this is
   pointed out, unless the issue is one for which the working group
   needs wider input or direction.

   In addition to the topics noted above, appropriate postings include:

    - Last Call discussions of proposed protocol actions
    - Discussion of technical issues that are candidates for IETF work,
      but do not yet have an appropriate e-mail venue
    - Discussion of IETF administrative policies
    - Questions and clarifications concerning IETF meetings
    - Announcements of conferences, events, or activities that are
      sponsored or endorsed by the Internet Society or IETF.

   Inappropriate postings include:

    - Unsolicited bulk e-mail
    - Discussion of subjects unrelated to IETF policy, meetings,
      activities, or technical concerns
    - Unprofessional commentary, regardless of the general subject
    - Announcements of conferences, events, or activities that are not
      sponsored or endorsed by the Internet Society or IETF.

   The IETF Chair, the IETF Executive Director, or a sergeant-at-arms
   appointed by the Chair is empowered to restrict posting by a person,
   or of a thread, when the content is inappropriate and represents a
   pattern of abuse.  They are encouraged to take into account the
   overall nature of the postings by an individual and whether
   particular postings are an aberration or typical.  Complaints
   regarding their decisions should be referred to the IAB.

Acknowledgements

   Comments by Donald E. Eastlake 3rd and other members of the IETF
   POISSON working group are gratefully acknowledged.

Author's Address

   Susan R. Harris
   Merit Network, Inc.
   4251 Plymouth Rd., Suite C
   Ann Arbor, MI 48105-2785

   Phone: (734) 936-2100
   Fax:   (734) 647-3185
   EMail: srh@merit.edu

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PROBLEMThe IETF's most general mailing list needs clear rules on what is on topic and what is not.
MECHANISMThe charter lists the list's two purposes, appropriate and inappropriate postings, and lets the IETF Chair, the IETF Executive Director or a sergeant-at-arms restrict posters who show a pattern of abuse.
STATUS TODAYRFC 3005 is a Best Current Practice (BCP 45). It was updated by RFC 8717 and replaced by RFC 9245.

§1Purpose of the List

The IETF discussion list, ietf@ietf.org, serves two purposes. It furthers the development and specification of Internet technology through discussion of technical issues, and it hosts discussions of IETF direction, policy, meetings and procedures.

Because it is the most general IETF mailing list, considerable latitude is allowed. The list is meant for initial discussion only: topics that fall within a working group or well-established list should move there once that is pointed out, unless the working group needs wider input or direction.

This is the big open room where people start talking about Internet rules. If a topic has its own smaller room, the talk moves there.

§2Appropriate and Inappropriate Posts

Appropriate postings include Last Call discussions of proposed protocol actions, technical issues that are candidates for IETF work but have no e-mail venue yet, IETF administrative policies, questions about IETF meetings, and announcements of events sponsored or endorsed by the Internet Society or IETF.

Inappropriate postings include unsolicited bulk e-mail, subjects unrelated to IETF policy, meetings, activities or technical concerns, unprofessional commentary regardless of subject, and announcements of events that are not sponsored or endorsed by the Internet Society or IETF. Advertising, including job promotion, and discussions of a personal nature are outside the range of acceptable topics.

Questions and news about the group are welcome. Junk mail, rude remarks and ads are not.

§3Enforcement

The IETF Chair, the IETF Executive Director or a sergeant-at-arms appointed by the Chair is empowered to restrict posting by a person, or of a thread, when the content is inappropriate and represents a pattern of abuse.

They are encouraged to consider the overall nature of an individual's postings and whether a given post is an aberration or typical. Complaints about their decisions should be referred to the IAB.

A few trusted people can ask someone to stop if they keep breaking the rules. They should look at the whole picture, and anyone who disagrees can complain to a higher group.