RFC 249 UNKNOWN NETWORK · PROCUREMENT

Coordination of equipment and supplies purchase

A feasibility study of pooled network member equipment purchases

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PUBLISHED
October 1971
AUTHORS
R.F. Borelli
STREAM
Legacy
DOI
10.17487/RFC0249

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                                                       NIC 7690
Network Working Group                                  R. F. Borelli
Request for Comments #249                              University of Illinois
                                                       Center for Advanced
                                                         Computation
                                                       October 8, 1971

              Coordination of Equipment and Supplies Purchase
              -----------------------------------------------

        The purpose of this message is to pass on to all members of the
   Network an agreement reached between Messrs. Steve Crocker of ARPA and
   R. F. Borelli of the University of Illinois.  The Center for Advanced
   Computation has agreed to study the feasibility of a coordinating point
   for purchases of equipment and supplies to be used on the network.

        To this end, the Center will compile a list of common equipment and
   supplies needed by Network members and ascertain the value of contacting
   the appropriate manufacturers and distributers in order to negotiate the
   best possible group price.  Thereafter, the results of the negotiations
   will be passed on to Network members with a resulting listing of items,
   costs and supplies.

        The two biggest pitfalls with this concept are:
             1.  Insufficient demand for commonly required items.
             2.  Not satisfying each organization's administrative
                 requirements for competitive bidding on items
                 which are not sole-source justified.

        At this time, it appears to be premature to allow this to stop the
   idea.  After the listing of items and range of sources are collected and
   analyzed, these two points can be addressed.  In fact, this project may
   have to be abandoned; however, there are sufficient reasons to believe
   that these problems can be overcome to make the venture workable.

       We request that all members of the Network forward to the Center,
   ATTN. R. F. Borelli, a descriptive listing of equipment and supplies
   they require in this fiscal year.  Particular attention must be paid to
   listing all the acceptable alternates to increase the changes of
   commonality.  For example: TI-725 terminals could be considered a
   substitute for Teleterms 1030's, etc.  The only items excluded at this
   time are 2400 ft. Magnetic Computer Tapes, tabulating cards, and
   conventional computer printer paper.  Any added suggestions or ideas are
   both encouraged and welcomed.

        A sample format of information is attached.

          Sample Format of Information Requirement is as Follows:
          ------------------------------------------------------
                                                                  Current
                                                                 Estimated
   Quantity      Description and Special Needs      Mfgr.           Cost
   --------      -----------------------------      -----       -----------

       3         Remote Terminals                 Texas Instr.  $4,200.00 @
                 Model TI-725 with upper and            or
                  lower case                      Teleterms

   100 rolls/mo  Electro Static Printer Paper      Gould        $10.00/roll


   Requested by:

                     University of Illinois
                     Center for Advanced Computation
                     Urbana, Illinois  61801
                     Telephone:  (217) 333-6375


   A listing of items not intended as all-inclusive are:

       1.  Gould Electrostatic Printers and printer paper.
       2.  Computek graphics terminals.
       3.  ARDS graphics terminals.
       4.  CRT alphanumeric terminals (Hazeltine, Datapoint, DEC, etc.).
       5.  Hard-copy portable terminals (TI-725, Teleterm 1030, NCR etc.).
       6.  Teletype (ASR and KSR-33, 35 and 37)
       7.  Plasma panels.
       8.  Plotters (CalComp, Bendix, Calma, etc.).
       9.  Digitizers and scanners.
      10.  Computers (PDP-11, PDP-10).
      11.  Computer peripherals (TU-56, TC-11, etc.).
      12.  IMLAC's.



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PROBLEMNetwork members need equipment and supplies, often at high cost due to individual purchases.
MECHANISMThe University of Illinois Center for Advanced Computation would study whether pooling purchases with other network members could achieve better group prices from manufacturers.
A FEASIBILITY STUDYThe study would identify obstacles like insufficient shared demand and procurement rules requiring competitive bidding, and determine whether they could be overcome.

§1Introduction

RFC 249 announces a study agreed between ARPA and the University of Illinois Center for Advanced Computation on whether network members could pool their equipment and supplies purchases to negotiate better group prices.

The Center would compile a list of common items needed across the network, contact manufacturers and distributors, negotiate bulk prices, and report the findings and potential savings back to network members.

Schools on the network want to buy computers and printers cheaper. One school will call the manufacturers and see if bulk orders get a discount.

§2The Two Key Obstacles

The RFC identifies two major challenges: insufficient shared demand (not all members need the same equipment), and competitive bidding rules (procurement rules at some organizations may require bidding between multiple suppliers even if a group would prefer a sole-source purchase).

However, the RFC notes these obstacles may be resolvable once the detailed list of items and suppliers has been analyzed.

Some schools might not need the same things, and some schools have rules saying they must ask multiple companies for prices. These make group buying harder.

§3What Equipment to Consider

The RFC requests network members submit lists of equipment and supplies they need, with acceptable alternatives to increase commonality (for example, the TI-725 terminal as a substitute for the Teleterm 1030). Items explicitly excluded: magnetic tape, computer cards, and printer paper. Suggested items include terminals, plotters, computer peripherals, and systems like the PDP-10 and PDP-11.

Each school should say what it needs and what other brands would work too. Tape and punch cards are not included in the pool.

§4How to Participate

Members should send R. F. Borelli at the University of Illinois a descriptive list of required equipment with estimated costs, manufacturer names, and quantities. A sample format is provided showing quantity, description, manufacturer and current cost. The Center can be reached at (217) 333-6375 in Urbana, Illinois.

Schools should write down what they need to buy and send the list to one person, who will call the manufacturers.